TRANSCRIPT: DETAILED BACKGROUND BRIEFING BY SENIOR INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS ON NEW TERROR THREATS
Sun Aug 01 2004 20:58:13 ET
SENIOR INTELLIGENCE
OFFICIAL: (already in progress) it's clear about al-Qaeda's intent, as
well as their capability to carry out attacks both here and abroad, but
the intelligence effort against al-Qaeda is a painstaking one, one that
requires tremendous patience and tremendous effort on the part of many
different government agencies and departments. And we had a briefing
here several weeks ago regarding the information that we had about
al-Qaeda's plans to carry an attack in the homeland this year.
What we have are pieces of a jigsaw puzzle and now we have some very
specific, and as the Secretary said, specific and credible information
regarding al Qaeda's plans to carry out attacks here in the States.
Today's news, today's intelligence, is both a cause for concern as well
as, clear evidence of success in the war against terrorism. Because of
the tremendous detail and specificity that we've been able to acquire,
the collection agencies have been able to acquire, about upcoming
attacks. We frequently get this type of information after attacks take
place, but this information before these attacks are able to be carried
out.
The new information is chilling in its scope, in its detail, in its
breadth. It also gives one a sense the same feeling one would have if
one found out that somebody broke into your house and over the past
several months was taking a lot of details about your place of residence
and looking for ways to attack you.
When I went through the information over the past 36 hours the type of
information that has been acquired about the target sets here in the
United States demonstrates that al-Qaeda is meticulous in its efforts;
it is patient in its efforts, and since 9-11 there has been an effort
made to ensure that they have the information that they need in order to
carry out attacks.
What I want to do is walk through briefly some of the types of
information. What we have now is extensive information about the
activities that have taken place from a reconnaissance standpoint in
terms of collecting information, also in terms of casing and
surveillance as far as the types of targets to be attacked, the
vulnerabilities, the perceived vulnerabilities, as well as the possible
optimal ways to carry out attacks to bring down buildings.
There is detail now available regarding the types of security procedures
at some specific buildings; the security checks that are required; the
types of security personal at different posts; whether or not these
individuals are armed or not; the presence of security officers at these
posts at different times of the day; the types of uniforms that they
wear; the number of pedestrians in the area, the number of employees in
buildings; information regarding potential escape routes for
perpetrators of attacks; different points of reconnaissance in order to
ensure that they have the full breadth of information regarding the
targets; different types of shops that are near by.
There is extensive information now available on the information they've
been able to acquire regarding the other facilities in the area, whether
they be religious establishments, schools, libraries, hospitals, police
departments, fire departments; talks about the different access
measures, as far as whether or not there's a physical desk or intercom
systems; types of surveillance activities or counter-surveillance
activities such as cameras; good places to go to meet employees; good
places to go to acquire additional information; the types of traffic
patterns that are near buildings; the different types of vehicles that
in fact can enter different types of parking facilities; the incline
that is used, that exists, as one enters an underground parking
facility; the different types of materials that in fact should be
brought into different types of vehicles and to address whether or not
certain materials can, if detonated, cause, in fact, buildings to
collapse; the placement of such devices and bombs to maximize the damage
to the architecture of the building.
It identifies also the disadvantages of certain types of plans in terms
of the possible dissipation of the force in terms of the size, the
height of the building, the height of a ceiling where in fact a vehicle
might in fact be detonated. It talks about different means of ingress
and egress; how one can get in side buildings. It talks about the
configurations of parking lots. It talks about whether or not the
parking garages and facilities are close the core of the buildings and
near certain offices. It talks about the different types of shops
nearby that can provide cover for additional types of acquisition of
information. It talks about the number of cars passing different types
of targets at particular times of the day.
It talks about the many types of procedures that employees themselves
have to use for access to buildings. It recommends the type of material
to be used. It talks about the types of techniques. It talks about the
types of trucks, vehicles, other types of means of bringing in and
bringing close to the targets, explosive devices. It makes reference to
the extensive detail that individuals who have been involved in this
have been able to acquire from publicly available sites, from various
types of information that's available, as well as the types of personal
reconnaissance and surveillance and casing that goes on.
So again, from the standpoint of intelligence availability on different
types of targets and my experience, the amount of detail available here
is such that really provides the different types of organizations
involved tremendous insight into what, in fact, al-Qaeda is
contemplating and what they already have identified in terms of means of
attack.
SENIOR INTELLIGENCE OFFICIAL: I wanted to spend just a moment talking
about a different piece of this puzzle. You've talked about the, what
do we know, what have we acquired.
There was a question earlier about where this came from. Let me talk
for just a moment about how we got here and we know what we know.
There's been commentary in the media over time about things like
chatter, about acquisition of information off the internet. This is not
that kind of information. What this is a result of is the offense we
have taken in this war and the disruption of this al-Qaeda adversary.
Over the course of the past three years since 9-11, we've taken out,
this is CIA in concert with our law enforcement colleagues, our military
colleagues, and our friends around the world, I'd estimate more than 70
percent of the al-Qaeda leadership. And what we have found is a mosaic,
an understanding of this adversary that is slowly and steadily coming
into focus. It's coming into focus again, not just because of chatter
or because of internet information, but because we acquire information
from disruptions that allows us to get behind the organization and
understand exactly what they're trying to do in some respects just like
someone else just described, and this information as I said is the
result of disruptions of the organization. I'd make one more comment
about this.
The adversary we saw and have seen since the 1990's, the adversary that
conducted the operation of September 11th, put in place many plans.
It's a very strategic thinking organization. The leadership of the
organization, I think, it was very focused and committed to what they
were doing. What you're seeing in some cases is the remnants of what
that leadership tried to set up years ago, and what you're seeing in
response is the manifestation of our offensive disruptions. We are
seeing what they put together and seeing it as we take down people, and
as we take down what we call documents and other document exploitation.
So as we take out the remnants, the mosaic is coming into focus, and in
some sense we have a bit of a good news story today. Disruption has
allowed us to get a clarity that we have not had before. So that's a
quick picture. I don't know if anyone else has comments to make.
SENIOR INTELLIGENCE OFFICIAL: I'll speak very briefly, but the
information that has been received over the last short period of time
has really carved out a lot of work for us to do. It's provided us a
lot of veins that we are going in collectively. As someone has already
said, this is really a success story for all of us and the opportunity
for us to be able to take advantage of the intelligence that has been
developed and look behind the intelligence to expand and look in other
directions is very valuable.
The last three years we've had some extraordinary partnerships that have
been developed, not only among those of us agencies that are up here in
front of you, but especially the state and local law enforcement
agencies and our counterparts around the world. And it's that
partnership that's allowed us to get to where we are and that we can now
take this information and put it to good use in the areas that Secretary
Ridge has mentioned in New York, Northern New Jersey, and Washington,
D.C.
We've been speaking directly about this intelligence with Ray Kelly,
Commissioner from New York; Chief Ramsey in Washington, D.C.; as well as
other individuals in the homeland security law enforcement sectors in
those areas as well as in New Jersey. And we'll continue to do that and
work in partnership to exploit this information.
SENIOR INTELLIGENCE OFFICIAL: I'd just like to echo the other
official's comments here that we are doing our best to get this
information out to the state and local authorities and to the private
sector here in the United States to inform them about the threat and to
assist them in any way that we can and understanding it and dealing with
it.
There are many people at work. It's a large team. All agencies of
government are involved. We're doing everything we can to clarify the
situation and to inform people and you, of course, are a vital part of
that and we appreciate that very much. We would like to, kind of leave
a thought with you today that Secretary Ridge mentioned, but I'd like to
just reinforce before we take any questions you might have, and that is
that this information we have now is still developing, and additional
information is likely to come into our hands in the next few hours and
days and weeks.
We think this is a long term set of problems that we're up against.
This is not a flash in the pan, so to speak. So all of us together,
everyone who not only serves and supports the American people, but who
are the American people, in fact, have to pull together on this one to
secure our nation.
Thank you very much.
SENIOR INTELLIGENCE OFFICIAL: Before we have questions I realize we've
had a couple of people that may have joined us late. I just want to
reiterate that these individuals for the purpose of this briefing are
senior intelligence officials of the administration.
QUESTION: Is Homeland Security taking charge of working with the
private sector or is the FBI, or is it a combination?
SENIOR INTELLIGENCE OFFICIAL: This is not an intelligence question. I
didn't give an intelligence presentation either in my remarks...But keep
in mind, there's something we remind ourselves of all the time here, and
that is that protection and response are local issues.
SENIOR INTELLIGENCE OFFICIAL: The private sector is the point of the
spear, so we can't, you know, we can do so much with this information
but at the end of the day it's got to be operationalized by the private
sector working with the local cops and the local law enforcement
community. So the nexus is right there and we talk about, the Secretary
had pointed out some of the specific buildings and the companies that
we're interested in, well we're working directly with their directors of
security, their CEOs to ensure they've got the right messaging, the
right things to do in terms of operationalizing protection plans, you
know coordinating with the local law enforcement community so that's
really what this represents.
I mean this is a contextual approach toward, you know, identifying the
threat, understanding protection methods that can correspond to that
threat and ensuring that everybody's got the appropriate resources aimed
at the right thing.
QUESTION: Can you give us justification of ...(inaudible).
SENIOR INTELLIGENCE OFFICIAL: I think the indications are that this has
been a very long standing effort on the part of al-Qaeda, that it dates
from before 9-11; it continued after 9-11 and based on what it is that
we are concerned about, we know about in terms of al-Qaeda's plans and
intentions that it probably continues even today, in terms of
preparations and acquiring additional information that would allow them
in their mind to optimize the chances of success.
So I think the scope of the information, the breadth of it, indicates
it's been going on for quite some time and it was conducted over an
extended period of time, probably by many individuals.
QUESTION: Is that what you believe or does that mean that you think
since 9-11 (inaudible)
SENIOR INTELLIGENCE OFFICIAL: I believe that since 9-11 they have been
able to acquire additional information on these targets here in the
United States, yes, I do.
QUESTION: Have there been recent events that have not been reported
that would be (inaudible) that you're talking about of this plot, this
plan that would be where this information comes from?
SENIOR INTELLIGENCE OFFICIAL: I don't think I'll get into the details
of where it came from. Let me give you two perspectives. The first is
we have a strategic backdrop of disruptions that goes back to the take
down of senior al-Qaeda leaders like (inaudible) Mohammad and Abu
Zubaydah. We have over time developed a clarifying picture of this
organization and what they're trying to do to us, strategically
understanding them as an adversary. Within the past days, we've
acquired additional information that give a remarkable level of clarity
and that information is very fresh, but it comes against a strategic
backdrop that we've been worried about for a long time.
QUESTION: (inaudible)
SENIOR INTELLIGENCE OFFICIAL: I think that would be a stretch. We have
a lot of work to do here. The way we operate is when you start looking
at information like this, I guess sort of like journalists, the amount
of information that we are going to develop from this and be able to act
upon is going to be huge. This for us is a potential treasure trove.
QUESTION: (inaudible)
SENIOR INTELLIGENCE OFFICIAL: Someone else mentioned there is a
treasure trove of information that has recently become available against
a backdrop of a volume of information that provides insights into the
types of people, the types of individuals and where they may be coming
from and what they may be going about doing.
And so this is part of that jigsaw puzzle I mentioned about getting
intelligence and law enforcement to piece it together to try to identify
the actual individuals and it runs all the way, as we know from the 9-11
attack, individuals who were orchestrating it from far off lands to
individuals who were in charge of different cells, to the actual
operatism of cells. And so this is one of the things that we're trying
to do is to make sure we feed all that intelligence in to law
enforcement.
QUESTION: How many people do you think are involved in (inaudible)
carry out the (inaudible) or is it a different group?
SENIOR INTELLIGENCE OFFICIAL: There's really no way to determine how
many people were involved in the actual reconnaissance and casing. I
think we know from other types of operations al-Qaeda has carried out
overseas that sometimes individuals who do casing and surveillance are
actually participants in the operations themselves, to include suicide
attacks. In other instances there are individuals who are facilitators
only and are not the people who actually carry it out.
QUESTION: (inaudible) sleeper cells or individuals in the (inaudible)?
SENIOR INTELLIGENCE OFFICIAL: Not in my review of the information at
all in terms of the information itself right now. Law enforcement is
picking up the intelligence and working with it as we speak.
QUESTION: So you're saying you have not identified specific individuals
involved in these (inaudible)?
SENIOR INTELLIGENCE OFFICIAL: At this point, as you can imagine, this
is on-going intelligence case as well as law enforcement investigative
case, and so what might be happening as we speak about specifics and
specific individuals or whatever is something that we will not address.
QUESTION: (inaudible) come from the arrests Gadlani and as far as this
(inaudible) talk about here today, did you have information on
(inaudible) what you found in his pocket or his possessions?
SENIOR INTELLIGENCE OFFICIAL: As I said, I think I would prefer not to
discuss a specific source of information except to say that it was
acquired pretty recently.
QUESTION: (inaudible) you mentioned documents (inaudible) you saying
you recently acquired additional documents related to this (inaudible)?
SENIOR INTELLIGENCE OFFICIAL: No, what I'm saying is as we've looked to
understand the al-Qaeda organization, there's a variety of information
that we use to understand it. Someone referred to internet earlier.
We certainly try to understand the organization's motivation from public
sources, but in addition to what is publicly characterized as chatter,
we have a whole, we have a growing wealth of information, whether it be
from human sources, technical sources, but also documentary sources that
help us get a level of granularity over time that we've never had, and
what we're seeing now as you neck down this organization is specificity
that in the three years post September 11th we've been fighting this, we
have never seen before.
QUESTION: Is it possible this information is tainted?
SENIOR INTELLIGENCE OFFICIAL: You can see the partnership here. We're
so closely linked that we're not certain who's going to answer the
question. I suspect that the motivations are other than being a
partnership, we're trying to dodge the bullets. Can you run that one by
me again?
QUESTION: Is it possible this is old information (inaudible)?
SENIOR INTELLIGENCE OFFICIAL: I think I would refer to what an official
said earlier. We acquire over the course of time information that dates
sometimes pre 9-11 sometimes post 9-11, but what I think what we've seen
over the course of time indicates that al-Qaeda remains focused on the
United States is what we call the brass ring, and what we have seen of
late does nothing to tell us otherwise.
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